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马来西亚军舰在南海追逐中国护卫舰时出故障 险些沉没
9月21日消息:据马来西亚媒体报道,9月15日,马来西亚海军“KD Pari”号巡逻艇
在南沙群岛弹丸礁(马来西亚方面称为拉央拉央岛)海域追逐一艘中国护卫舰时发
生技术故障,船轴脱落导致主船舱进水,险些沉没。

报道称,马来西亚海军参谋长丹斯里阿都阿兹向《新海峡时报》证实,该军舰当时
正在追逐一艘疑似挂著中国旗帜的护卫舰。

阿都阿兹表示,“KD Pari”号的船员在离岛后不久,于下午2时53分听见一声巨响,
结果军舰就出事了。初步调查显示,“KD Pari”号巡逻艇因连接螺旋桨和引擎的船
轴移位而发生故障。在故障发生后,“KD Pari”号巡逻艇立即返航,驶回弹丸礁码
头,艇内大量进水。

阿都阿兹这样描述受损情况,“我们立即召集潜水员密封船尾的大洞,但此时军舰
已是半下沉状态,船员使用多个水泵仍无法把舱内海水抽出。”
阿都阿兹还宣称,马来西亚海军另外一艘军舰“KD Pahang”号在“KD Pari”号出
事后,即刻奉令继续完成追逐中国护卫舰的任务。

驻守南沙群岛弹丸礁的马来西亚海军“KD Pari”军舰和“KD Pahang”军舰这两艘
军舰,在南海纠纷中经常露面。这两艘军舰,实为小型巡逻炮艇,舷号为别为“3502”
和“3503”,曾在2010年4月驱赶过中国海监维权执法船和中国渔政311船。



马来西亚军舰追外国船遇事 进水军舰险沉没
2011-09-20

(马来西亚《新海峡时报》)于日前遇事的军舰“KD PARI”因在水上追逐一艘外国
船只,结果船轴脱落导致主船舱进水。军舰因机房遇事时遭水淹没,目前无法再操
作。

皇家海军部队司令丹斯里阿都阿兹向《新海峡时报》指出,有关军舰遇事前正追逐
一艘挂著中国旗帜的船,相信是一艘护卫舰。船员在军舰离岛后,不久就听见一声
巨响,并于下午2时53分在南中国海群岛处遇事。

“初步调查显示‘KD Pari’因连接螺旋桨和引擎的船轴移位而发生事故,不过在阿
都哈迪少校及36名船员充分体现专业精神下,成功把遇事军舰驶回拉央拉央岛码头,
军舰在靠岸时已处于半下沉的状态。”

“船员们在使用多个水泵下仍无法把船内海水完全抽出,而船员在使用充气空气袋
使军舰上浮前,也在第一时间召集潜水员密封位于船尾的大洞。”
他说,另一艘军舰“KD Pahang”当时马上被召唤追逐中国护卫舰,并在无法与此护
卫舰沟通下将其驱逐。

“目前已设立调查委员会调查此事,同时考核‘KD Pari’的损害程度。”

2009年耗资1200万翻新
遇事军舰曾于2009年耗资1200万令吉(约382万美元)翻新,但相信翻新所用的花费
超过上报的数目。

另外,皇家空军部队也派遣其分别来自亚庇及拉央拉央岛的海上巡逻艇CN-235及C-130的
技术人员及装备以支援“KD Pari”。

“KD Pari”重达244顿,体积是44.9公尺x7公尺x2.5公尺,可航行32海里及承载36名
船员。
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Navy vessel breaks down while chasing ship
NST 19 Sep 2011

KD Pari sustained a dislodged shaft while pursuing a China-flagged ship
encroaching on waters off Pulau Layang Layang on Thursday.

KUALA LUMPUR: A Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) vessel, in pursuit of a foreign
ship encroaching on waters off Pulau Layang Layang on Thursday, was forced
to abandon its operation after its engine room was flooded.

RMN chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar said the crew of the Fast Attack
Craft-Gun (FAC-G) vessel KD Pari heard a 'loud bang' soon after it had departed
the island westward to pursue a China-flagged vessel, believed to be a frigate,
spotted at Gugusan Semarang Peninjau in the South China Sea at 2.53pm.

"Initial investigations revealed that the KD Pari sustained a dislodged
shaft, which connects the propeller to the engine, and the vessel turned
back to its base.

He added a second RMN ship, the new-generation patrol vessel KD Pahang was
immediately summoned to pursue the China-flagged ship and managed to "shoo
it away" after efforts to communicate with it failed.

Damage to KD Pari, which reportedly underwent refurbishment in 2009 to the
tune of RM12 million, is believed to be in the tens of millions of ringgit.

KD Pari, pennant number 3510, was built by Hong Leong-Lurssen at its Butterworth
shipyard and commissioned on March 23, 1977.

It weighs 244 tonnes, is 44.9m x 7m x 2.5m, can sail at 32 knots and is
manned by 36 crew members

KD Pari:
Displacement: 244 tonnes
Length: 44.9m
Beam: 7m
Draught: 2.5m
Speed: 32 knots
Crew: 36 crew members [/color]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KD_Pahang# ... _the_class

DK Pahang:
Type: MEKO 100 RMN
Displacement: 1,850 tons full load
Length: 91.1 metres
Beam: 12.85 metres
Draught: 3.4 metres

Armament:
Guns : 1 x 76mm 62cal OTO Melara Rapid DP
1 x Oto Melara / Mauser 30mm short-range gun
2 x 12.7 Machine Guns


http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/054%E5%9E% ... B%E8%88%B0

054型护卫舰
基准排水量 3500顿
满载排水量 3900顿
全长 134米
全宽 16米
吃水 5米
武器装备 一门单管100毫米紧凑型舰炮
四座AK-630型CIWS
一座海红-7防空导弹
两座四联装鹰击-83反舰导弹发射装置
两台三联装“白头”B515鱼雷发射管
2座3200型反潜/反鱼雷深弹发射装置

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_054_frigate

Chinese frigate (Type 054A)
Type: Frigate
Displacement: 4,053 tonnes (full), 3,600 tonnes (standard)
Length: 134 m (440 ft)(CCTV report)
Beam: 16 m (52 ft) (CCTV report)

Armament: 1 x HQ-16 32-cell VLS SAM launcher
8 x HN-2 land attack cruise missiles [1]
2 x 4 C-803 anti-ship / land attack cruise missiles
1 x 76 mm dual purpose gun
2 x Type 730 7-barrel 30 mm CIWS guns
Triple 324 mm YU-7 ASW torpedoes
2 x Type 726-4 18-tube decoy rocket launchers


http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/053H3%E5%9 ... B%E8%88%B0

053H3型护卫舰
基准排水量 2250顿
满载排水量 2393顿
全长 115.4米
全宽 14.3米
吃水 4.3米
武器装备
一门PJ33A型双管100毫米舰炮
四座76A型双管-37毫米高射炮
一座海红旗-7防空导弹
两座四联装鹰击-83反舰导弹发射装置
2座3200型反潜/反鱼雷深弹发射装置

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看了这文章以后我感到可喜,可悲,又可笑。可喜的是中国有派军舰到南海去巡逻,
希望以后会有更多的军舰去巡逻。更希望这象征中国正在准备用武力收回国土。可
悲的是中国的海军还在给马赖西亚的拉圾军舰赶来赶去,不知道要到什么时候才敢
出手收拾这些海盗般的小丑收回国土。可笑的是马赖拉圾军舰不必中国军舰打它就
自己沉了。不过再想了一下还是可悲。中国政府连这样的拉圾海军都不敢和它打还
有什么希望收回国土。

以上我说明马赖海军的KD Pari 和 KD Pahang和中国的护卫舰(frigate)的大小和武
器装备。中国的军舰好像是一只护卫舰(frigate)。我不知道这个中国的护卫舰是那
一型。不过053型和054型都有鹰击-83反舰导弹发射装置。马赖巡逻艇没有反舰导弹
的装置,只有舰炮和机关枪。如果真的打起来,中国护卫舰要打沉马赖巡逻艇一定
没问题。主要是看中国总统敢不敢打。

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看了这文章以后我感到可喜,可悲,又可笑。可喜的是中国有派军舰到南海去巡逻,
希望以后会有更多的军舰去巡逻。更希望这象征中国正在准备用武力收回国土。可
悲的是中国的海军还在给马赖西亚的拉圾军舰赶来赶去,不知道要到什么时候才敢
出手收拾这些海盗般的小丑收回国土。可笑的是马赖拉圾军舰不必中国军舰打它就
自己沉了。不过再想了一下还是可悲。中国政府连这样的拉圾海军都不敢和它打还
有什么希望收回国土。
...

完全同感. Liang3a兄明晰地表达了我们的复杂感受.

中国有幸位列于世界上经济影响力最强的国家以及军力最强的国家, 几乎双料王牌, 还是联合国安理会常任理事国.

然而, 看看大中国的海军, 就是在自己的南海领域内, 反被蹩脚的马贼军舰两次三番地追赶驱逐. 实乃可耻、可悲、可恨.

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马来西亚海军“KD Pari” 号巡逻艇在南沙群岛弹丸礁(马来西亚方面称为拉央拉央岛)海域追逐一艘中国护卫舰时发生技术故障,船轴脱落导致主船舱进水,险些沉没。

有分析称,马来西亚小艇是被中国护卫舰撞了了一个洞,不好意思说是中国人搞的,只能扯谎说追打中国军舰出了毛病。但是,狮子狗追狮子?中国就这能耐呀,自己的地盘让人家追着直跑?


希望这是真的。也应该给这些马赖鬼一个教训。

Some people say China should not go to war against Malaysia because it could
shut China out of the Malacca St. But it is very unlikely that Malaysia
would dare to shut China out of Malacca St. For one thing what would Malaysia
use to keep China out of Malacca St.? Certainly it could not keep China
out of Malacca St. with its 4th rate Navy which is more likely to sink all
by itself before it can stop any Chinese ships. It would not dare to use
its land based missiles because China could easily wipe them out with many
cruise-missiles such as Long Sword (Chang-Jian) and Red Bird (Hong Niao)
or ballistic missiles such as East Wind (Dong Feng). China could also invade
Sabah and Sarawak to set up military bases and then from the western end
of Sarawak launch a multi-prong invasion of the Malay Peninsula. If Malaysia
can invade China's sovereign islands in the South Sea, then I don't see
any reason why China cannot invade Malaysia. China can follow this up with
mass migration of tens of millions of Chinese into Malaysia and after 30
years it can become a new province of China. If America can keep adding
new states to its union, then I don't see why China cannot add new provinces
to its nation. Then China can control not only the South Sea but also can
open the door into Indian Ocean all the way to the east coast of Africa.

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马鼎盛说出真相:中国军舰是因为没有飞机的保护才逃
马鼎盛说,中国军舰当时在马来西亚沿岸200海里以内,虽然对付两嫂小炮艇不是什
么问题,但是打架以后可能无法脱身,因为马来西亚空军拥有米格29和FA18,以军
舰的机动能力,是绝对跑不掉的。
所以中国军舰36计走为上计,呵呵
但是,貌似可以对峙的说,为何跑恁快涅?
心不愿也!
早知如此,何必当初啊?
呵呵



中国053 和 054型护卫舰只有一座海红-7防空导弹。 海红-7防空导弹的航程只有12公
里。马赖西亚飞机FA-18和 Su-30 都有空对海导弹航程都超过12公里。 Mig-29 可
能只有炸弹。所以中国053 和 054型护卫舰不能和FA-18和 Su-30 对抗。不过中国有052C型
驱逐舰。052C型驱逐舰有装置48枚海红旗-9防空导弹。红旗-9防空导弹的航程有200
公里。FA-18的对舰导弹的航程只有125公里(Harpoon)。 Su-30的对舰导弹的航程只
有115 km (KH-59ME出口)。所以中国的红旗-9防空导弹可以对抗FA-18和Su-30。中国可以派052C型驱逐舰去南海巡逻那就不怕马赖飞机。

其实就是用053 和 054型护卫舰到南海巡逻也不怕。可以用J-10,J-11,Su-27和
Su-30保护。如果马赖飞机真的沉了中国舰艇,那中国也可以出动轰炸机,导弹轰
炸马赖空军,海军和陆军基地击炸马赖飞机和军舰。

I doubt very much if Malaysia dare to actually use its fighter/bombers to
attack Chinese naval vessels. This is because China has many weapons with
which to attack Malaysia. There are many bombers, ballistic missiles, guided
missiles, big guns from naval ships, etc. not to mention nuclear bombs. China can also take the opportunity to attack and occupy Sabah and Sarawak if serious war broke out. After all, if Malaysia can occupy Chinese sovereign territories in the South Sea, why can't China occupy Malaysian
territories in the same South Sea? The biggest problem with the South Sea
situation is the self-restraint of the Chinese government. It is seeing
non-existent dangers everywhere. For example, the biggest fear of the Chinese
government is that the US will enter the war on the side of the 4 invaders.
Or that the US will shut down the Malacca St. to exclude Chinese shipping.
This is nonsense. The US has no intention of entering a war that it can
derive no direct benefits especially at a time when the American economy
is moribund. Furthermore, the US's purpose of re-entering
S. E. Asia is to try to get some economic benefits to pump some lifeblood
into the flagging American economy. If a paralyzing war broke out in the
South Sea then the economies of the S. E. Asia will collapse and the US
will end up losing even more. Furthermore, if the US entered the war on
the side of the 4 invaders, then the Chinese government must surely yield
to the Chinese public opinion and sanction American businesses in China.
That will immediately impact the American economy catastrophically. Therefore,
it is nonsense that the US will enter the war on the side of the 4 invaders.
China certainly can go to war without any fear of the US.

It should be obvious to any rational people that war in the South Sea is
inevitable if China wants to take back its sovereign territories. The biggest
problem is that the Chinese leaders do not have the gumption or mental toughness
to take the action to fight the war. The Chinese leaders are too corrupted and too
degenerated by decades of ease and comfort to want to bother with wars.
Their attitude can be summed up with the saying “树欲静而风不止”(The
tree wishes to be still but the wind will not stop)。A leadership cannot
be so passive and slack or laid back as the Americans would put it. The
leadership of potentially the greatest nation on earth must be active and
ready to move heaven and earth to develop China while protecting its sovereignty
and restoring its honor and respect. Those Chinese leaders who want to
lead a quiet and harmonious life must resign and go home to grow flowers
and leave the arduous administration of the greatest nation on earth to
those who are not afraid of taking on the hurly-burly and stormy responsibility
of safeguarding the motherland and go to war if necessary.

I give below the characteristics of the Chinese destroyer Type 052C.

052C型驱逐舰(北约代号旅洋II级,英文:Luyang II),又称兰州级驱逐舰,是中
国人民解放军海军的新一代防空驱逐舰。
首舰「兰州」号(舷号:170)中国海军第一艘安装四面「海之星」有源相控阵雷达
以及采用防空导弹舰载垂直发射系统的战舰,被外界称为「中华神盾」。与此相对
比的是,美国宙斯盾系统采用的是无源相控阵雷达。同级还有一艘,舰名「海口」,
舷号:171。
170舰2003年4月29日在上海江南造船厂下水,2005年9月服役。171舰2005年服役。
两舰皆在南海舰队服役。中国海军第一次拥有了区域防空能力。170舰是中国海军最
新服役的主力战舰,因为保密的原因,目前对该舰的性能与装备多为推测。
2008年12月26日,海口号驱逐舰与武汉号驱逐舰、微山湖号综合补给舰编队前往亚
丁湾海域护航,以保护中国及其他相关国际组织过往船只免受索马里海盗的侵袭。

2010年11月照片发现,在上海长兴岛江南造船厂继续建造第二批次同级舰,2艘已下
水,1艘在建,可以判断至少4艘要建,外观和首批没有什么变化,可能有电子技术
的升级,做为未来中国海军航母战斗群的组建。
导弹
170舰上装有六联装环形防空导弹垂直发射装置,共8个单元,舰桥前甲板6个,后甲
板与直升飞机库并排2个,全舰垂直发射系统共装弹48枚海红旗-9防空导弹,采用冷
发射的方式(使用高压气体将导弹推出发射装置后,导弹在空中点火),为了防止
导弹推出后发射失败落回甲板上的危险,发射装置向舷外倾斜一定角度。并且拥有
再装填设备。

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梁防长接着说:你们陆军战略定位必需搞清楚,你们的对手在那里?不是等着国际恐怖势力的航母舰队群,核动力攻击潜艇都开到家门口,轻松潇洒的象放烟火似的发射导弹和派发飞机轰炸我国,陆军决不能教条的认为那是海军和空军的事情。

也就是说国际恐怖势力胆敢对我国宣战!胆敢向中国放出第一枪,我们的陆军就必须具备三小时内冲出去,对他们的领土和军事基地及航母舰队群实施全面的占领,24小时内控制住所有战场局势!你们回去要认真组织学习毛主席的军事战略,结合军委主席胡锦涛同志科学发展观理论指导思想体系,制定出加快陆军向复合型远程伞降部队成建制!


这话跟我以上所说的一样。 如果马赖空军敢向我们海军发空对海导弹,那么中国海陆空三军就全部出动反击“对他们的领土和军事基地。。。实施全面的占领”。最后胜利的一定是中国。

This is like what I had said in the previous post. China must be able to go beyond its border and take the battle to foreign aggressors. Therefore, if Malaysia dared to invade China's sovereign territories in the South Sea then ultimately China must take the war to Malaysia.

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The Chinese had probably not run away. This is because if it had run away then it would not have been possible for the second Malaysia gun boat, KD Pahang, to catch up with it to "shoo" it out of "Malaysian territory". Both the Chinese frigate and KD Pahang have speeds of some 30 knots or 33 miles per hour. So if the Chinese frigate wanted to escape it would simply turn and head away from the island from which KD Pahang obviously had set sailed. Since the Chinese was some 200 nm from the Malaysian coast, and since the island is some 200 nm from the Malaysian coast (closest distance to Sabah), the Chinese frigate must be either to the east or west of the island. Therefore, if the Chinese frigate wanted to escape it could simply turn around and sail north and KD Pahang would not have enough speed to catch up with it. The fact that PD Pahang had apparently caught up with the Chinese frigate means that it had continued to sail "toward" the island after the incidence thus allowing KD Pahang to come within sight of it. This obviously means the Chinese frigate did not run away but on the contrary had sailed toward the island.

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