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张召忠一语惊醒中国人:南海主权告到联合国都没用 2011-09-12 02:10 #1

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2011-09-11 11:18:31 来源: 互联网 强国论坛

网友:我一向敬重张将军,但我不同意一点,就是南海问题不要拿到联合国去。我们
保卫领土完整不依靠联合国,但我们必须到联合国去,这是一个讲理的地方,把我
们的理讲透讲足,甚至可以提交到国际法庭,把这些事情做完,站到道德高地,让
全世界都知道理在中国一方,待条件成熟,就出兵驱赶,总比现在既不打仗又不说
话强。
不打仗要讲理,要打仗先讲理,这样出师有名,才是制胜之道。先把理占住,什么
时开仗,进退在我。
其次,我认为现在南海舰队失职,中央政府没有说南海不是中国的领海,南海舰队
就应按九段线巡海,和平巡海与战争是两回事。过去没有能力巡海,不去可以,现
在有了这个能力,为什么还不去?九段线内是南海舰队防务区,用不着中央军委下
命令。

中国状告侵岛国家很可能被判输

张召忠:从20世纪70年代开始,周边国家就开始侵占中国南海,30多年过去了,中
国除了发表声明之外没有采取行政、经济和军事手段,也就是说,中国没有在行政
上进行规范,比如划定南海的领海基线、专属经济区和大陆架,宣布南海诸岛的行
政归属权限,派遣海军舰队、编队进行例行巡逻,对抢占我岛礁的外国军队和设施
进行驱赶,在南海开发石油资源,进行大规模渔业捕捞作业等等。
这些活动没有,仅凭一纸声明显得苍白无力,30多年过去,习惯称谓自然,自然被
界定为国内法律,人家已经在外交、经济、行政、司法、军事等方面先占为主,我
如果再把人家告上法庭,国际法庭很可能判我输,南海被占岛屿和海域很可能永久
失去。
我的观点是,南海问题是中国主权问题,在这个问题上没有异议。南海现状是外国
使用军事力量强行侵犯中国主权,中国应该使用政治外交和军事手段维护国家主权
和领土完整,告状是没有用的,反而让人感到莫名其妙,中国这么强大,怎么连自
己的海上疆界都保护不了啊!


张召忠所说的和我所说的大部分一样。 中国不必到国际法庭去讲理因为中国以经有
了足够的历史凭据证明中国南海和南海群岛是中国领海和领岛。我以前有写过一个
文章说中国不必要也必不可把南海主权拿到联合国依靠国际法庭判定。

"UN cannot decide S. China Sea dispute."

[url]viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3507[/url]

这不是说中国在国际法庭一定会输。是说国际法律叵测,很多法律互相矛盾。输的成份比赢的成份大。

In the article quoted above, I had said that it is not necessary for China to take the case to the World Court. Furthermore, the law is often uncertain because judges can interpret laws in many different ways. In cases of sovereignty, the judges will base their decisions on common laws, customary laws, precedents, etc. which are oftentimes contradictory, making decisions nothing more than crapshoot. Therefore, China must not take the case to the World Court.

The invading countries mostly rely on "effective occupation and control" as their main legal basis for their claims. But occupation must be based on terra nullius. That is, a country can only enter a land that is "terra nullius" or empty land that does not belong to any country. A country can not legally invade a land that is already the sovereign territory of another country and through "effective occupation and control" establish sovereignty over it. If this were legal, then any country can invade any other country and colonize it and then declare it has sovereignty over it after a few years of "effective occupation and control". Furthermore, if invasion and occupation is internationally legal, then China can also simply invade these islands and then declare its sovereignty after a few years.

The point is that the World Court judges might use "effective occupation and control" as the basis for giving sovereignty to these invading countries. But the truth is China has established its sovereignty over thousands of years and has never given up its sovereignty which means China has the right to use force to defend its sovereign territories with military force. Unfortunately, the judges may decide that since China did not try hard to get back its islands, such neglect could be interpretted as evidence of abandonment thus making these islands "terra nullius" and therefore can be occupied and controlled by any countries. This is why China must not continue to propose "joint development" which might be used as legal evidence against China's sovereignty. After all, how could any nation offer its own sovereign territories for "joint development" with other nations? In the end, China is not acting in ways consistent with its status as the sovereign owner of these islands. If China kept on promoting "joint development" then it is in fact demoting itself to be just one of many equal claimant to these islands all of whom have equal rights to sovereignty. Therefore, China must stop promoting joint development and act immediately to use force to take back these islands and reestablish its sovereignty in the eye of the international law through "effective occupation and control". Time is not on China's side if status quo were maintained. Tabling dispute and promoting joint development are big swords that will cut off China's sovereignty for these islands. While the Chinese leaders might think they are being benevolent and peaceful, they are in fact being stupid and cowardly. They are in the process of losing a critical part of China's sovereign territories and will be condemned by the Chinese people for ten thousand years!!!!!

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且不说中国是否占理以及告状的输赢。

中国作为联合国安理会常任理事国、世界上人口资源最多的国家、世界上最大的新兴经济发展体,如果没有勇气和魄力维护自己国家的主权利益,反而要通过状告到联合国的方式解决被侵占领土的问题,说起来就是一件非常丢人的事。一个软弱无能而不顾形象的所谓“负责任的”的大国,本有着“安理会常任理事国”的身份与能力,却连自己的烂摊子事都搞不定,太窝囊了,太无能了,只能令国际社会掩面耻笑!

中国南沙领土被侵占而相关部门却一直不采取行动收回,致国土沦丧,被列强列弱欺诈玩弄,令我中华威严何存?颜面何在?自尊的中国人民被不断羞辱,中国人民活得太憋屈了!

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nick 写:
中国南沙领土被侵占而相关部门却一直不采取行动收回,致国土沦丧,被列强列弱欺
诈玩弄,令我中华威严何存?颜面何在?自尊的中国人民被不断羞辱,中国人民活
得太憋屈了!


好像中国政府宁愿被嘲弄不愿被敬重. 该忍就忍,不必忍的就打。毛泽东有说
过一句话,“打得一拳开,免得百拳来。”中国越显得软弱别的国家就会越嚣张欺
诈玩弄中国。 如果中国能打一场胜战,不止中国人可以吐一口恶气还可以阻止以
后列强列弱的百拳欺诈玩弄。

China should stop "turning the other cheek" and instead "打得一拳开". Fight a victorious war and win the respect of the international community by defending its righteous sovereignty which is what any respectable country would defend. Things will go easier and smoother for China with more respect. Foreigners always fear those who are powerful and attack those who are weak. It is nonsense that 树大招风。The stronger China appears the more other countries will respect China and be more willing to cooperate with it. Above all they will be more willing to do more businesses with China which is what the money grubbing Chinese foreign traders want anyway.

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