by 01562396 » 2011-06-14 20:17 中国南海 wrote: nick wrote:新年新思维。 目前正是中国“拥抱”东盟，力图建立共同市场的时候，所以不宜对菲律宾动粗。 菲律宾人还是很聪明的，率先发明了登陆舰搁浅占礁的方法，竟然以弱搏强，虎口夺食，巧妙地侵占了中国的仁爱礁。 既然是一个非暴力的、有效的好办法，中国不妨照猫画虎，也搁浅一次，弄个攻防兼备的“烂舰”搁浅在黄岩岛，留几个人在那里看守舰船财产，事情就成了。如此，聪明的菲律宾人可是没什么好抱怨的，因为他们的烂舰至今还仁爱礁在搁浅，他们的留守人士在搁浅舰上一直没撤回呢。 我觉得黄岩岛非常重要。 国家不妨积极与菲律宾谈判，解决黄岩岛，可以在经济上多补偿菲律宾一些，甚至在南沙的岛礁上做一些妥协。 北方和西方的边界线不都是这么确定下来的么，黄岩岛也可以。 然后好好建设一下黄岩岛，这样在南沙说话会更有分量。
There is really no need to do such tricks. Just go in and blow them out of the water. Why are the Chinese so weak? Ask yourself what would the Americans do if some countries landed a ship on its shore and claimed its sovereignty? I'm sure the Americans would simply go in without hesitation and arrest the intruders and put them in some POW camp such as the one in Guantanamo and torture them day and night. China should offer peaceful solution first. But when peace is rejected, then it must go to the next step which is war. Continuing to plead and beg for peace is not only futile it will create a disdain and contempt for the Chinese. In then end, peace is not possible when the Filipino people hold the Chinese in such contempt. It will only encourage them to grab even more Chinese territories.
China should not act like a thief trying to steal some loot in the S. China Sea against the rightful owners who are the countries bordering the S. China Sea. China has established soverignty over a large part of S. China Sea based on its historical maps. Therefore, the Chinese people must believe that they are the rightful owners of S. China Sea. DO NOT believe people who try to trick the Chinese people into believing that China does not have sovereignty over S. China Sea or that it is unfair for China to claim sovereignty over S. China Sea due to its proximity to the Philippines or Malaysia. Proximity is not recognized by international law. And no country has greater claim over S. China Sea than China which had established sovereignty since Tang Dynasty. Cairo Declaration in 1942 and Potsdam Proclamation in 1045 both returned the Japanese territories to China:
"Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine." As had been announced in the Cairo Declaration in 1943.[
Since China had sovereignty over S. China Sea before WW2 and S. China Sea was included in the Pescadores (Penghu), therefore it was returned to China's sovereignty by these international treaties.
Therefore, the Chinese people must be more confident and believe that S. China Sea does belong to China and that China can rightfully do what sovereign nations can do in exercising military power to protect its sovereign territories. Also ask yourself what would China do if Hainan Island were attacked by the Philippines? I'm sure no Chinese would hesitate to blow the invaders out of Hainan beaches. Therefore, do the same thing in S. China Sea. China has the right to protect its sovereign territories. So just do it!!!!!
The Chinese government keep thinking that it can maintain peace by "soft power." But soft power never worked. China kept losing territories throughout Sung Dynasty trying to charm the invaders with poetry and misic but eventually got invaded totally by the Mongols who cared nothing about poetry and music. China also tried to appease the Japanese and the European countries for the last 200 years. In the end, the Japanese just got more greedy and ultimately invaded China. Soft power never worked anywhere in the world. It cannot work since invaders only want land and not friendship, therefore, the only way to deal with invaders who occupy your country is to blow them away as soon as possible.
As I explained before, it is not costly to fight the war against Vietnam and Philippines. China can continue to develop economically because the war is not costly. It is not necessary to worry about Japan and America entering the war because these countries are deeply in trouble with their economy. To fight a war now will bankrupt and collapse the economies of Japan and America very quickly and their peoples will tell their countries to stop fighting China. Therefore, it is only the hesitaion and the cowardice of the Chinese government that is prolonging this problem until finally it is emboldening the Japanese, the Americans, the Australians, and now the Brits and the Indians to start poking their noses into S. China Sea. In the end, this is going to repeat what happened 100 years ago with the Japanese and the 8 European countries landing troops to invade China. Except this time China is much stronger and the only thing stopping the Chinese from fighting is the nameless fear of the Chinese leaders who don't understand the real situation and simply wish the whole problem will go away. But the problem will only get worse until China start using its military force.
关于黄岩岛控制局势的进一步发展，值得我们拭目以待，仔细观察。 华尔街周刊：菲最大战舰于中国海监船在南中国海对峙 Updated April 10, 2012, 10:53 p.m. ET Philippine Warship in Standoff With China Vessels By JAMES HOOKWAY
The Philippine government Wednesday said its newest warship is locked in a standoff with two Chinese surveillance vessels in a fresh dispute over fishing rights in the resource-rich South China Sea, potentially escalating an already-tense security environment in the contested region.
The two navies engaged each other after the Philippine vessel—a former Coast Guard cutter provided by the U.S. Navy—attempted to arrest the crew of several Chinese fishing boats who were anchored at Scarborough Shoal, off the Philippines' northwest coast but which is also claimed by China. The Philippine government said Chinese surveillance vessels intervened to prevent any arrests, leading to the standoff, and that Filipino sailors who inspected the Chinese vessels on Tuesday found illegally-collected corals and live sharks in one of the fishing boats.
Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario early Wednesday summoned Chinese Ambassador Ma Keqing to help find a diplomatic resolution to the stalemate. His office said in a statement that the shoal "is an integral part of Philippine territory," and that Philippine authorities would enforce their sovereign claim to the area.
China is locked in a series of overlapping territorial disputes with the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei, who claim either all or part of the South China Sea as their sovereign territory. The dispute has flared in recent months as the region's potential energy reserves begin to draw growing attention.
Over the past year, Vietnam and the Philippines have accused Chinese navy craft of harassing oil-exploration vessels operating in their United Nations-defined maritime economic zones. Beijing has denied that, but has warned Vietnam and the Philippines from prospecting in the area without its permission.
"This is part of larger pattern. These new standoffs are coming to light only because we are better positioned to stand up to China now," said a Philippine military official who asked not to be identified.
China's foreign ministry in Beijing couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
The United States, too, has angered China in stating that the South China Sea, which carries about half the world's trade, remains free for navigation. Washington has stepped up military and diplomatic ties with Hanoi and Manila, providing the refurbished cutter, now named the Gregorio del Pilar, to the Philippine navy last year and pledging to deliver another craft. Next week, the U.S. and Philippine militaries will resume an annual series of military exercises, including drills off the Philippines' western coast.
Those exercises appear likely to further antagonize Beijing. Already this week, a hawkish Chinese general has warned that the Philippines is facing its "last chance" to peacefully resolve sovereignty disputes over the South China Sea. Maj. Gen. Luo Yuan, writing in the Global Times newspaper, accused the Philippines of hijacking a recent Southeast Asian summit in order to further pressure China over the South China Sea, and warned that Manila's alleged provocations would fail.
"The biggest miscalculation of the Philippines is that it has misestimated the strength and willpower of China to defends its territorial integrity," Gen. Luo wrote.
While not necessarily reflecting the Chinese governments views, Gen. Luo's comments show signs of growing impatience with the Philippines after Manila adopted a more aggressive stance towards its South China Sea claims under President Benigno Aquino III, who was elected in 2010 and has since sought to revive the Philippines' sometimes fragile ties to the U.S.. Diplomats say the administration of former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo was much more wary of antagonizing Beijing.
环球网引述菲律宾全国性报纸《商业视点》(Malaya Business Insight)报道，菲律宾塬副外长、塬驻联合国常任大使巴查(Lauro Baja)表示：「黄岩岛在中国有效控制之下。」菲律宾外长罗萨里奥(Albert del Rosario)确认了这一说法。罗萨里奥引述中国副外长傅莹指出，中国船只将永远留在黄岩岛。根据《联合国海洋法公约》，若菲律宾对黄岩岛失去主权，将失去其附近约49.4万平方公里的专属经济区，佔该国专属经济区总面积38%。